CARNASSIA
Official Name: Carnassia
Nature: Extraterrestrial planet, unidentified star system, unidentified galaxy
Environment: Life-sustaining biosphere
Gravity: Unrevealed (but presumably possessed a gravitational field in which it was
comfortable for humans to function)
Atmosphere: An unspecified combination of
gases (presumably mostly nitrogen and oxygen as multiple semi-humanoid
races breathed it comfortably without obvious life support)
Natural Satellites: Unrevealed
Artificial Satellites: None known
Natives: None known
Population: Unrevealed;
there is no mention of any native population, but that does not mean there was not one;
however, if the Interdite was the only regular inhabitant, its population was presumably zero following Gamora's departure.
Capital City: Unrevealed, if any
Government: Unrevealed, if any
Languages: Unrevealed
Monetary Unit: Unrevealed, if any
National Defense: Unrevealed, if any
Major Resources: Formerly the Interdite
Planetary Defense: Unrevealed
Places of Interest: At least formerly the cave-base of the Interdite;
Prominent Residents: Formerly an unidentified Interdite;
Visitors: Gamora, the unidentified Roclites, an unidentified Sagittarian, an unidentified Sirusite nobleman;
numerous beings who came to the Interdite to benefit from his prophecy
First Appearance: Guardians of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy (2017; see comments)
History:
(Guardians
of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen: Meanwhile, Meanwhile (five days earlier on
Carnassia) (fb) - BTS) <Eight
decades before the main story> - After the last other member of the
Order of the Divine Oracolites perished, the final surviving member
chose to maintain the notion of the Order singlehandedly. Based out of
a cave in the high peaks of a windswept and ragged mountain range that
ran like a spine across the main landmass of the planet Carnassia, he
lived a lonely, hermetic existence. Individuals from other worlds came
to visit him, making the demanding trek because they craved access to
the psionic insight into the future that his order possessed. They came
to him with questions, frets, worries, doubts, and fears; and he gave
them answers.
(Guardians
of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen (fb) - BTS) <Over
a year before the main story> - A Sirusite nobleman came to the Interdite Oraclite to discover whether his wealthy bride-to-be would remain faithful to him.
(Guardians
of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen: (fb) - BTS) -
The Interdite Oraclite sensed that the Zen-Whoberian Gamora would be coming to
ask about the location of the Rigellian Recorder #127. Aware at least
to some degree that that Recorder held the bulk of the information
needed for Project 616 -- which could grant power to utterly control
the entire galaxy (at least) -- and that Gamora had been employed to
recover the Recorder by the Negative Zone's Annihilus, the interdite
resolved that he could not give Gamora the answers that she would seek.
However, appreciating that the future was in flux and that there were
limits to his precognitive abilities, he saw the ultimate resolution
only as a blank void.
(Guardians
of the Galaxy: Rocket Raccoon & Groot -- Steal the Galaxy Chapter Seventeen: (fb) - BTS) - To
protect himself from Gamora, the Interdite Oraclite employed a trio of Roclites and a
Sagittarian.
Comments: Created by Dan Abnett.
In the Acknowledgments section, Dan thanked Stuart Moore, Jeff
Youngquist, Axel Alonso, Dan Buckley, Sarah Brunstad, and James Gunn
for their support in this project.
He also noted "fist-bumps to <the Appendix's own> Ronald Byrd for continuity-fu."
In-continuity?
People question whether novels should be in-continuity. There is a
mindset that they should arbitrarily and automatically excluded. I
don't get that at all. If the stories fit seamlessly in-continuity and
they add to the
rich texture of the "Marvel Universe," why exclude them? In any case,
characters in such
stories as novels, games, etc. that don't contradict -616 continuity
are considered "fringe characters." They fit into existing continuity,
but are not definitively part of it until they are confirmed to be so
in a story, handbook, etc.
There is one significant continuity glitch, but it
has been referenced in other stories confirmed to take place in
Reality-616 (see Donald's discussion below)
They
sure fit in better than a lot of stuff by certain writers...you know
who you are...and we know who you are...
Not only that, but the story specifically references the universe in
which they dwelled to be Reality-616...however, the Marvel Cinematic
Universe movies refer to their mainstream reality as -616 also...
Counterpoint by Donald Campbell:
As much as I liked this novel, there were some
elements that bothered me. For example, Alpha Centauri is described as a
"cosmic hubworld (that governs) almost thirty systems and trillions of
lives." This definitely does NOT sound the like 616 Alpha Centauri system
where the Centaurians are usually depicted as only having a
"bow-and-arrow" level technology, the Alpha Centaurians (assuming
they are not nearly extinct) are focused on desperately trying to keep their
homeworld habitable, and the Centurii from Centuri-Six (which may or may not
actually be part of the Alpha Centauri system) were all kidnapped by slavers.
And yes, I hold this opinion despite the fact that, in
Annihilators#1/2, Abnett and Lanning established that Rocket Raccoon had
worked for six months as a mail clerk at the Alpha Centauri offices of the
Customer Services Division of Timely Inc. Also, while the Timely offices
were aboard an orbiting ship in that comic, in this novel they are on the
planet Alpha Centauri...which is also wrong/inconsistent with the Marvel Comics
universe.
In conclusion, I really enjoyed the novel but I
don't think it was meant to be canon and I don't think that it should be
treated as being "in continuity." And I would REALLY like some writer
to finally get around to explaining the current status quo in the 616 Alpha
Centauri star system. I mean, what level of technology do the Centaurians
actually possess? What do the Centaurians actually call their race? What is
their name for the planet known to Terrans as Centauri-IV? Can Alpha
Centaurians still live on Arima or was the planet left too dehydrated after
Sub-Mariner I#18? Is Centuri-Six actually in orbit around Proxima
Centauri?
Me again:
Valid point on the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but the difference is
that the novel is not clearly a different reality or part of a
different Multiverse than the comics Reality-616 as the cosmic
hierarchy, (Uatu the Watcher, Galactus, etc.) etc., is the same. Additionally, this story goes to
great lengths to fit solidly with Reality-616's continuity, alien
races, etc.
The Alpha Centauri discrepancy is
certainly significant, but bigger issues than that happened consistently in
Bendis' and other writers' stories that are considered Reality-616.
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First posted: 03/23/2024
Last updated: 03/23/2024
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